Coronavirus Epidemic Update 23: Infections in Kids & Pregnancy, South Korea, Spillover From Bats
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Coronavirus (COVID-19) update 23 with Dr. Seheult of www.MedCram.com. PLEASE NOTE: This video was recorded on February 21, 2020. Our more recent COVID-19 updates can be accessed free at our website www.medcram.com/courses/coronavirus-outbreak-symptoms-treatment or here on SEsoft: sesoft.info/seedPLQ_IRFkDInv_zLVFTgXA8tW0Mf1iiuuM_.html
We've produced each COVID-19 video with the best information we could access at the time of recording. Naturally, some videos will contain information that has become outdated or replaced by better information or research.
That said, we believe each video contains concepts that have enduring value and reviewing how the response to COVID-19 has progressed over time may be of interest to you as well.
The confirmed cases in South Korea appear to have increased significantly due to a "super-spreader" event. Dr. Seheult also discusses mounting confusion about the changing diagnostic criteria, infections in kids and pregnancy, and interesting research on virus spillover from bats to humans.
See our prior videos on the novel coronavirus outbreak that started in Wuhan, China:
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 22: Spread Without Symptoms, Cruise Quarantine, Asymptomatic Testing: sesoft.info/hd/video/tKSjq6uElIqiqYw
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 21: Antibodies, Case Fatality, Clinical Recommendations, 2nd Infections?: sesoft.info/hd/video/nnWMxK6wrYa5vp4
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 20: Misinformation Spread, Infection Severity, Cruise Ship, Origins: sesoft.info/hd/video/sJRnm4qTqHbbsYw
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 19: Treatment and Medication Clinical Trials: sesoft.info/hd/video/mXt-nIZ-3WOsr2s
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 18: Cellphone Tracking, Increase in Hospitalizations, More Sleep Tips: sesoft.info/hd/video/23hn03ek157SuGc
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 17: Spike in Confirmed Cases, Fighting Infections with Sleep (COVID-19): sesoft.info/hd/video/3J-VsGuPup23v4A
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 16: Strengthening Your Immune Response to Viral Infections (COVID-19): sesoft.info/hd/video/1qSNvHqgtnfWv2s
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 15: Underreporting, Prevention, 24 Day Incubation? (COVID19) sesoft.info/hd/video/1Gtjl6yumZrA0qY
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 14: Hospital spread of infection, WHO allowed in China, N-95 masks: sesoft.info/hd/video/1Xeh0H2unKqaqGc
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 13: Li Wenliang, nCoV vs Influenza, Dip in Daily Cases, Spread to Canada: sesoft.info/hd/video/lYia1YWgrpbb1WM
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 12: Unsupported Theories, Pneumonia, ACE2 & nCoV: sesoft.info/hd/video/rIdmwnZqxpia1Yg
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 11: Antiviral Drugs, Treatment Trials for nCoV (Remdesivir, Chloroquine): sesoft.info/hd/video/1Zl605l_snrQ1oQ
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 10: New Studies, Transmission, Spread from Wuhan, Prevention (2019-nCoV): sesoft.info/hd/video/zIOqyZ6Ky3nUq6I
- Coronavirus Epidemic Update 9: Fecal-Oral Transmission, Recovery vs Death Rate: sesoft.info/hd/video/nXud3GiOypO1uJY
- Coronavirus Outbreak Update 8: Travel Ban, Spread Outside of China, Quarantine, & MRSA: sesoft.info/hd/video/rKOVuKSF2qLFqKI
- How Coronavirus Kills: Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) & Treatment: sesoft.info/hd/video/1J6amqqqw3rTzYQ
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Source LINKS referenced in this video:
gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51572137
www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/20/confusion-mounts-over-chinas-counting-methods-coronavirus-numbers-swing-wildly/
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659
www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/pregnancy-faq.html
www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/20/807742861/new-research-bats-harbor-hundreds-of-coronaviruses-and-spillovers-arent-rare
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Speaker: Roger Seheult, MD
Clinical and Exam Preparation Instructor
Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Disease, Critical Care, and Sleep Medicine.
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  • Sparkyroots
    Sparkyroots

    FYI the BBC in the UK is so horrifically bad that nobody watches its news over here anymore - I wouldnt quote them if I were you - go straight to the source if you can find it, which a lot of the time you wont because it is made up. BBC is ONLY JUST being funded by a licence fee which is enforced by threat of prison if you dont pay - but this year the big news is that viewers hate the BBC, dont watch it anymore and the government will scrap the license fee forever and force the BBC to go for subscriptions - which they wont get if they continue the poor quality they have grown accustomed to. They have sacked and demonised every quality and intelligent member of staff over the last 20 years, for every reason from being a 'climate change denier', questioning government, alignment with any minority or op-positional opinion.

  • Mary Lam
    Mary Lam

    Kids under 5 are can get it easily.

  • Mary Lam
    Mary Lam

    Maybe the number of kids infected is so low because each family is only allowed 1 child.

  • Don Framal
    Don Framal

    Should I keep my family home from school

  • People T
    People T

    Well now it’s a pandemic

  • Michelle The Great
    Michelle The Great

    Bat feces is toxic thats a well know fact

  • Susie 1604
    Susie 1604

    This channel is incredibly valuable. Thank you so much for such clear and factual information. It’s immensely important to educate ourselves and remain as calm and level - headed as possible, which is not easy at a time like this. Thanks to you, there is a place to come where questions are answered without causing catastrophic panic. I’m 18 weeks pregnant with my second child and am desperately trying not to let my fear of the unknown take over. You have helped me reason with myself and that is priceless. I have no doubt you will help many, many others. If only our leaders would take the same approach. Thank you.

  • RetiredEMT96
    RetiredEMT96

    I was hoping to find out why children don’t seem to get as sick? I have immunodeficiency, diabetes, asthma and am 53 years old. I take vitamins daily and live near 3 major airports. Did I miss a video about children? I’ve been avoiding going out in order to remain well but my family is carrying on as usual, I’ve warned them to use universal precautions but am very concerned. Thank you

  • Elena Marie
    Elena Marie

    I’m in Northern California, currently 4 months pregnant.

    • Susie 1604
      Susie 1604

      Elena Marie I’m in Scotland. 18 weeks pregnant. Trying to find out as much as I can but the information is so limited. Wishing you and your baby the best x

  • Hannibal EnemyofRome
    Hannibal EnemyofRome

    What about pangolins as an intermediate host.

  • Roger Goodwin
    Roger Goodwin

    Neever run weth sesers.

  • Tina
    Tina

    Thank you for your hard work.

    • MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY
      MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

      You're welcome - thanks for the comment

  • SoRena Dix
    SoRena Dix

    Hello Dr. Seheult, you didn't include how the bats, etc., are ingested. Please discuss this.

  • The Boss
    The Boss

    People i know this are some hard moments but we need to show love to one another, that it will bring us togheter and be more peacefull not fear...love you all stay blessed

  • Christina Horcicova
    Christina Horcicova

    What about flying? If someone sneezes or coughs ...then I fly with the same plane, I lick of by mistake the seat and put it in my mouth, or my child....then I can get it?

  • paullywog13
    paullywog13

    My wife is having our first baby in a month. I don't know what to do except feel apprehensive.

  • Vujzz
    Vujzz

    May i ask if a kid has corona virus is it true that if you drink only tea or some other things and then u will be fine

  • Jeff McKinley
    Jeff McKinley

    Can you prove the virus came from bats???? No you can't. Virus from eating bats is miss information.

  • Hello SUN
    Hello SUN

    Dr., The correct pronunciation of the city Wu-Han should be stressed on 2nd syllable.

  • Ann Little
    Ann Little

    Try vinegar apply in spray bottle

  • 부기원
    부기원

    As South Korean, Moon Jae-in is one of the most fuckin crazy president in country. He doesn't listen to many doctor's opinion that South Korea near China have to prohibit many Chinese from entering Korea. President Moon concentrates on helping Chinese people(for example, he gave China 320 millions mask.) while Korean under danger of Wuhan virus infection are struggling for buying mask. He was arrogant to resolve this infection. Impeachment of Moon will makes Korean people vivid. I think Moon Jae-In is HUGE SPY OF CHINA AND NORTH KOREA. (As I am South Korean, I am not sure what I wrote well in English.)

  • shashank shrivastava
    shashank shrivastava

    Information of coronavirus has come around for reference. Common colds have runny noses and sputum, while the new coronavirus continues to have a dry cough without a runny nose for more than 3 days. The virus of Wuhan this time is low in heat resistance and dies at a temperature of about 56 degrees or more. Therefore, please drink a lot of hot water of a little hot water. Yes 1. The new Corona Virus is large and can be filtered with general masks. However, if an infected person sneezes, 3m should be careful because the bacteria will scatter. 2. If the virus adheres to the metal, it will survive for more than 12 hours. If you touch it, wash your hands well with soap. 3. If the virus adheres to clothes, etc., it is active for 6-12 hours. Washing with detergent kills bacteria. Drying in sunlight kills bacteria. Symptoms of pneumonia caused by coronavirus. The throat is infected first, and the dry throat sensation lasts for 3-4 days. It flows into the trachea in 5-6 days, enters the lungs, and develops pneumonia.

  • visamedic
    visamedic

    Interesting......you can’t get the Johns Hopkins info without signing in.

  • Genie Harris
    Genie Harris

    Im suppose to travel to Ireland from the USA in 3 weeks .. would you go???

  • azur bleu
    azur bleu

    Clinical Microbiology Review. 2001 Jul/ Nosocomial Spread of Viral Disease Celia Aitken and Donald J. Jeffries . Rhinoviruses and Coronaviruses Rhinoviruses and coronaviruses are responsible for the common cold in 20 to 40% and 10 to 15% of cases, respectively. Typical symptoms include coryza, sneezing, lacrimation, and chilliness and last from 2 to 7 days. NO FATALITIES have been reported, but these infections may predispose individuals to more serious complications such, as sinusitis, otitis media, and asthma. A recent report has suggested that pneumonia may follow an upper respiratory tract rhinovirus infection in BMT patients analogous to that seen with RSV

  • Vash TheStampede
    Vash TheStampede

    So people need to leave the bats alone, stop hunting and eating them, LEAVE wild life alone.

    • Truly Honest
      Truly Honest

      Vash TheStampede a relative of mine walked out of a mall and was bitten by a bat. How can we protect US from them?

  • mark galetti
    mark galetti

    China Engineered the Corona virus, it's the cure, to what's to come.

  • Rafal Degorski
    Rafal Degorski

    if a regular flu kills more, why we have to worry about covid 19 so much ??

  • Dan Belk
    Dan Belk

    Has anyone looked at the correlation between cigarette smoking and mortality of coronavirus? It would explain the highest death rate in Asian men, and lowest rate in children. Also, breathing in cigarette smoke would send the virus into a fertile bed for growth in the lungs.

  • Leonar Herrera
    Leonar Herrera

    WARNING!!! Coronavirus is not transmitted through the air, this is a lie. The coronavirus is being processed by the world elite through sealed packaging, in China it was initiated by sealed smartphone cases and sold massively with the virus injected as a random pandora, and to this day it remains so!!! ALARMA!!! El coronavirus no se transmite por el aire, esto es una mentira. El coronavirus esta siendo trabsmitido por la elite mundial a traves de empaques sellados, en China fue iniciado por cajas de smartphone sellados y vendidos masivamente con el virus inyectado como pandora aleatoriamente, y hasta el dia de hoy sigue siendo asi

  • Colleen Haynes
    Colleen Haynes

    Thank you for all of these informative videos. I keep checking for # 24. 😄 Can you do one on a comparison between this corona virus and the flu?

  • Chnet Gamer
    Chnet Gamer

    I suggest when trying to interpret statistics from the virus, we should just ignore the data from China because not only they're underrepresenting and biased (hospitals currently only admits patients with severe symptoms, and they won't figure out if a people is killed by virus or other reason unless already diagnosed in hospital), the criteria changes all the time and you cannot plot anything meaningful using these numbers. With infected numbers growing in other places, maybe we can get more reliable data about this virus.

  • Danielle Addams
    Danielle Addams

    With my health anxiety, it all just feels like the world is ending slowly. I'm starting to get scared to even leave my home, although we have no confirmed cases in Portugal. Our health system sucks and I don't trust our doctors and other health professionals.

  • Donte Diamante
    Donte Diamante

    We have gone 2 days without your updates. I literally look forward to your insight everyday. Hope everything is All right with you.

  • 2019- nCoV
    2019- nCoV

    Hi guys

  • Kultur Patruljen
    Kultur Patruljen

    Tx for the best channel on COV19 info But! What is status on how long the virus can live outside a host? You mentioned earlier about one being infected by the virus on a doorknob?

  • tzoody
    tzoody

    Please put out another update, this seems to be the only Chanel I know of that puts out accurate information with out spreading panic

  • Carlos Krueger
    Carlos Krueger

    Never Trust A BIG PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY...PURE GARBAGE..😡😑

  • Carlos Krueger
    Carlos Krueger

    More like GEOENGINEERING THAN BATS!!..

  • Jessica Limbi
    Jessica Limbi

    I live in Italy and we currently have more than 200 cases with 4 deaths, which makes us the 3rd country in the world for infections. The situation escalated real quickly and our daily life is changing: many universities are closed, kids are not allowed to go on school trips, sports manifestations have been temporarily cancelled and some areas have been isolated. Is all of this really necessary or is it only spreading further panic? I don’t really know if this is the right way to face this epidemic, people here are becoming psychotic, for instance many supermarket shelves are empty and we are witnessing many episodes of racism

  • livingthedream
    livingthedream

    We need Johnny five -like robot bodies that can be remotely controlled by nurses and doctors and we needed this yesteryear

  • Hani Mohammadi
    Hani Mohammadi

    WHO said: The following measures ARE NOT specifically recommended as 2019-nCoV remedies as they are not effective to protect yourself and can be even harmful: - Taking vitamin C - Drinking tradition herbal teas So can you explain this more? taking Vit C is harmful if you already have CoVid-19 ? or should stop it even before getting infected? and how about herbal tea?

  • Iwan Koekman
    Iwan Koekman

    Hi. Thanks again for the information. I had a thought. I have rheumatism arthritis. And medicine for it (methotrexate). This lowers the immune response as I understand my doctor correctly. It can be a idea (in de situation of a Corona virus) to stop taking the drugs until the virus is "gone". This could be a consideration (pain in joints/better working immune system). Just saying because maybe people are not aware of this. Do I have a valid point to state this like this in regards to defending/protecting yourself?

  • ConsoleCleric
    ConsoleCleric

    I blame Batman for all this.

  • White King Bleach
    White King Bleach

    The new 27 day incubation period is very concerning since the old quarantine evacuatee are in public..

  • Paul Bork
    Paul Bork

    What sort of npis could one use when one might be exposed? For example, in areas where COVID-19 is present and one gos opt to periodically for supplies, other than washing hands, garments and PPE, what could be helpful? I assuming staying hydrated, eating well, sleeping well and avoiding stress are all very important. I’m thinking there may be some beneficial impact from timing sleep after returning or before, eating, exercise (vigorous or not). What about inhaling steam?

  • Steven Skaggs
    Steven Skaggs

    And we have all kinds of stupid laws protecting bats.. This didnt come from bats. But the next one might.

    • White King Bleach
      White King Bleach

      Scientists are studying why bats have immunity to near all types of corona viruses. Could be a possible cure in the far future.

  • Robert Wagner
    Robert Wagner

    😷 thank you for good info

    • MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY
      MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

      Thank you for your comment

  • Abhishek Hule
    Abhishek Hule

    Hi.. These updates are very informative. A certain question does come to my mind: At what point does the Dam break ? as in what number of patients can a country sustainably manage without causing a complete break down of further infections or collapse of infrastructure.

  • Umbrella Corporation
    Umbrella Corporation

    There has been a new video everyday, but it's been 2 days and no new video. So far Japan, South Korea, Italy and Iran have seen a huge spike in cases and now deaths there too.

    • MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY
      MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

      New one is coming out. Just take a break on the weekend.

  • Billie Kane
    Billie Kane

    Unless they have a fever and have traveled to China the CDC won't allow testing for the corona virus.and they are sent home..That's what an emergency doc said on another thread.

  • Bob Coleman
    Bob Coleman

    And two days later now 760+ plus cases in SK. Up from 204. Aren't we at Pandemic?

  • Lillian Elliott
    Lillian Elliott

    This is very serious!!!! Many people are dying! It’s all in your Bible Matthew chapter 24. Jesus said, I am the Way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me. John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="846">14:6</a> pray as Jesus to save you come into Your heart forgive you of your sins, in Jesus name. Read your Bible tell others how to be saved and have eternal life.

  • Carmen Crespo
    Carmen Crespo

    There is a wonder in my mind of the false positive,test...Possible two types of virus (Mutated),and one doesn't show up in the original first test,being used. Do you think the testing needs to be re-evaluated?

  • YUE3899
    YUE3899

    They closed my school today... Italy 😢 and cancelled all festivals too.

    • YUE3899
      YUE3899

      @Umbrella Corporation but I don't care about myself but my mother, she work at the ospital and she is an old woman.

    • Umbrella Corporation
      Umbrella Corporation

      Lock yourself inside. Dont go out for a month.

  • Grand Lodge of History
    Grand Lodge of History

    Covid19 is the next pandemic. China is lying and downplaying the number of dead and infected. We are just now seeing it explode in South Korea now in one night it went from 140 infected to over 600 infected

  • Mr Colemore
    Mr Colemore

    We have chicken, beef, pork, lamb and even turkey but some people just have a thing for bats. Wankers

    • Umbrella Corporation
      Umbrella Corporation

      Bats are the chickens of the caves.

  • Mike Trafford
    Mike Trafford

    Further on 5G, Peak Prosperity's 21 Feb 2020 update highlights Costa Mesa Ca has taken out a Federal Court injunction to prevent CV-19 +ve patients being relocated there from Travis AFB. Costa Mesa residents have protested against the local government's decision to roll-out 5G. So, if one accepts the CV-19 as cover for 5G-sickness idea, 5G gets rolled out in Costa Mesa and the CV-19 +ve patients are put there to cover 5G casualties. Where is Ethan Hunt when you need him?

  • ヤマモトPaul
    ヤマモトPaul

    I just want to say “ Thanks 😊 “ to this channel for providing accurate information in the middle of chaotic situation of the time. It is hard to get legit information these days... Especially, as a Japanese living in 🇯🇵, there are lots of things ranging from disinformation to conspiracy theories....with bunches of pseudo scientists and self-appointed experts.. That’s so sickening to see them to fan the flame of fear.. We all need to be vigilant but not be panic!! As Dr. Mike says🙏🏻 Peace and Love from Japan 🇯🇵

  • mer mer
    mer mer

    2 days, no new video. meanwhile the infection in italy exploded.

    • medicore0000
      medicore0000

      yea wtf

  • Mike Trafford
    Mike Trafford

    Any thoughts about alleged similarities between CV-19 symptoms and the alleged symptoms of 5G-poisoning eg: shortness of breath, cyanosis, arythmia, sudden collapse and dry cough? Wuhan, S. Korea and the cruise ship are allegedly high-5G environments. The theory is CV-19 was released to cover the 5G effects, or CV-19 is no worse than any other flu and the whole "pandemic" is 5G.

  • Peter Rasmussen Lubiana
    Peter Rasmussen Lubiana

    MAN WE NEED YOU TO GO THROUGH MORE PEER REVIEWED DATA!

  • Colin Butler
    Colin Butler

    I was beginning to think it was only me that was worried about the coronavirus, I’m sure my family think I’m paranoid and don’t really like me talking about it. I’m sure it won’t be long before they all understand how dangerous this virus is going to be.

  • Uncharted Thoughts
    Uncharted Thoughts

    *This WHO is more incompetent that the WHO on plague inc. on casual mode, off course*

  • Uncharted Thoughts
    Uncharted Thoughts

    **Cues "Nearer My God To Thee"**

  • 89gymratt
    89gymratt

    Hey Dr If you look at the blood type percentages in China , the majority are RH positive , and only about 0.6 percent Rh negative , So it seems like this virus only infects people who are Rh Positive ?

  • Lew Google
    Lew Google

    How did they define "species", in order to state there are 400 different ones in the bat study? Based on genome analysis?

  • Jjj Ww
    Jjj Ww

    .... or it COULD have come from a LAB .... one lab that is up wind from a certain fish market -- or where lab personnel get off of work - and go to said fish market ... and contaminate the WORLD ...

  • Timothy Dottin
    Timothy Dottin

    What IS the child mortality rate? Anybody know?

  • Seriously Whatever
    Seriously Whatever

    "responsible" for these cases... I don't think that is the right word there... Specially incase of SARS-COV2

  • Bel Bel
    Bel Bel

    Thank you for the evidence based explanation. I am a dentist. I always think the pathogenesis of SARS and Covid19 and periodontal disease are so similar. About 15% of the population can be seriously affected, mainly affect middle to old age, but not children. They all are inflammatory in nature, get worse when there are underlying diseases such as heart disease and diabetes. All these relate to the immune response of the host! What is your opinion?

  • JP K
    JP K

    Thanks for all the good information.

  • Leslie Love
    Leslie Love

    They were probably doing that right in the level 4 bio lab right outside Wuhan

  • Zachary Drake
    Zachary Drake

    Should the US stop all international travel?

  • N, Rob
    N, Rob

    Question: It was reported yesterday that there is no getting well from coronavirus; that it's simply recedes and reappears, masking as the flu, until the victim succumbs to it. Is this valid?

    • jannamwatson
      jannamwatson

      Source of information? I haven't heard that yet, and it sounds more like fear mongering than fact. If that was the case, we would be seeing a fluctuation in the 'Recovered' category

  • N, Rob
    N, Rob

    Question: When the bodies are burned, does not that make the virus airborne as heat rises and this virus-carrying air then blowing across the globe?

    • Nicholas Jordan
      Nicholas Jordan

      The ovens are pre-heated B4 Cadaver is loaded;

  • Jeffrey Dohnger
    Jeffrey Dohnger

    Good thing I have a freezer full of Tiger penis. It's getting harder to source now.

  • Karin H.
    Karin H.

    Thankyou very much, I am so glad you do these videos.

  • energyrockstargames
    energyrockstargames

    In italy is started an epidemy, I live in northen italy and the State underestimated the secondary contagious's risk

  • Stefano Pinchetti
    Stefano Pinchetti

    As an update from Italy, the latest official count (23/2 13.00 local time) is above 130 "infected", 80 in Lombardy alone. Quarantine measures are being taken for the "red zones". Two people died. Some considerations: there is no information (at least in the TV news) about the criteria used for "infection", it is not clear if these numbers are Covid19 diagnoses or CoV2 positives. The TV-news are calling the virus Covid19 and do not seem to be aware of the difference. The cases went up in just two days. It is apparent that the infection was circulating but went undetected for a while, and the cases popped up after the first detection, these are not people coming from China, though they might have had contact with returning people. This might have been worsened because there are seasonal infections occurring, and in particular with pulmonary complications, that might have masked the CoV2 diffusion. According to the TV news, one of the persons who died had pneumonia for 10 days before he was tested for the CoV2, to be taken with a grain of salt. It is now to be seen how much the infection has spread, or if it is limited to contacts with the identified cases.

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